Apparently, Japanese mothers do this to their sons. (rumor?) #WTFJAPAN
Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:18 p.m.
This is taken from another message board. I can't link it.
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From what I've seen, yes incest is more prevalent in Japan.
Japanese have clubs like Kinshinsokan Monogatari... Basically having sex with your mother fetish clubs. I have seen these clubs all over Tokyo. The prevalence of such clubs would be inconceivable in many Western countries.
It is not to say that every Japanese guy has sex with his mother. No, that is not the case. It is to say that the conditions and the opportunity for incest to happen is greater in Japan, than in many other countries.
The concept from which these clubs come from are ingrained in Japanese culture, where the Japanese mother sexually satisfies her son.
There are multiple factors and reasons for this, that differ greatly from Western culture.
1. Japanese mothers are well known to play with the penis of their son's. Via hand manipulation or with her mouth. This is a quasi-cultural custom that many Western countries don't have and don't know about.
It can be done jokingly to see the baby boy or boy get an erection, as play (a higher form of tickling), or even as a reward mechanism (for some task or thing he did well).
2. Japan had the system of exam hell, where you must score well on your college entrance exams to get into a good college. So some mothers would sexually satisfy their sons, so that they could focus on school and not girl chasing.
The performance on these exams, could be the direction of where you life is going. It was extremely important to many Japanese families to have their sons do very well. There is less pressure now, because due to the economy, college entrance requirements are lower.
Some Japanese mothers would consider it her duty to "sacrifice her body", so that her son would be sexually satisfied and could focus on his studies.
3. Absentee Japanese fathers, who stay away from and at work too much, which created situations where their wife wants sexual satisfaction and are tempted by their son.
This is compounded by the "shy", withdrawn, and at times anti-social element of Japanese culture.
The wife and mother would not or could not find a lover or sex-friend outside the house, however she could be highly sexually frustrated. Combined with a high hormone and sexually interested son... 1 + 1 = 2.
4. There are mothers who would actually use sex as a form of control over her son.
There is the "carrot or the stick". Many Westerns think only in terms of using the stick, belt, or various forms of punishment. However, there are Japanese mothers that decided to use the "honey pot" to get there boy doing what they want or to behave.
5. The relationship that Japanese boys can have with their mother, is not necessarily in the same context as Western ones.
In Western cultures, there is more anti-sex issues because of religion and more pushing the boys to be more macho, and even violent. Being a momma boy is seen as uncool and scorned more in the West.
You have less of that in Japanese culture, so you can get boys with stronger "momma boy" complexes and stronger attachment to their mother. Such overly strong attachments to the mother can become sexual, and especially if there is anything to "tip the scale", like an absentee father or sexually frustrated mother that doesn't want to go outside the house.
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Ray_Dorset | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:19 p.m.
Sadly by Japanese standards, that's not very weird.
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GuyCarlPeterson | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:19 p.m.
I don't need to read all that to know what you are talking about and it is old.
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Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:19 p.m.
6. Japanese families often HIDE incest.
It is a dirty secret and they don't want to make it public.
It is not like in Western cultures where people want to come out and tell their story, on TV no less, about how they were sexually abused by their uncle. Such a public outing can be viewed as outright public humiliation and shame in Japan.
So if the dad, mom, uncle, brother, sister... are having sexual relations, it is usually not talked about, unless there is violence or prostitution involved. If a kid is getting beaten up or sold for money, that may come out, but "just" sex in the family is more "hush hush" stuff.
7. The mother can have a childish mindset, which makes having sex with her son easier
Various Japanese women can not only act childish, in some odd method to attract Japanese guys, but are truly childish in their thinking process.
In is in this thinking style in which she has fantasies involving her own son and these can be sexual in nature or make sex easier with her own children.
The hard, stern, serious, and/or religious Western mother concept is not what is in play all the time here in Japan.
8. The father himself may have had sexual relations with his mother, so is actually accepting of his son doing it.
The father may know, and turn a blind eye to it or even encourage it (due to some kinky fetish of his own).
And it may have the aided benefit of allowing him to keep sexual mistresses outside the house and uncontested by the wife.
9. The mother, as a daughter, may have seen or known that her mother have sex with her brothers.
How I first found out about this unusual aspect of Japanese culture, is through a couple of Japanese girlfriends telling me about the kind of things they experienced when growing up.
So, since she has seen her mother do it, she may feel it is OK for her to do it or it is something she may even fantasize about.
10. Incest is not necessarily the traumatic experience that it is made out to be in the West or by feminists with anti-male agendas.
Often the Western image is an uncle or father violently raping his own daughter against her will and leaving massive psychological trauma as a result.
In fact there is even a book out that argues against conventional Western wisdom and dogma on the subject.
http://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Chil... There are a number of Japanese families where incest was practiced, even children born as a result of incest, and with no apparent affects that they realize (though the birth defect rate is higher). There are many negative affects of incest, however, it is not always apparent and a family can still be functional.
So, children of incest, can go on to be parents and commit incest with their children.
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ChromaticAngel | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:19 p.m.
it seems like every week I'm hearing about a different culture where moms have sex / oral with their sons.
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ultima9999 | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:19 p.m.
wat is this i dont even
weeaboos
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FFandMMfan | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:20 p.m.
Everyone knows Japanese boys love their imoutos and not their okaasans.
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BIOHAZZARD1 | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:21 p.m.
Incest is best, put your mother to the test.
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Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:21 p.m.
Another important thing to understand about incest in Japan, is the cultural frame of mind that surrounds it.
Incest has a long tradition in rural Japan and there isn't any Japanese law against it.
The Japanese law is against you marrying your siblings, but it is not a crime for you to have sex with family members nor will any charges be brought up if incestuous sex has been officially found.
No government or city officials will take the children away, unless obvious violence or prostitution are involved. This is in stark contrast to policies in the West.
The Western context is often to see incest as traumatic. It is also painted with the Western religious brush of immorality and sin, and Western therapists and feminists make constant spectacles of the trauma that an adult is said to have suffered when a child. However this is not necessarily how a child, family, or culture has to interpret it.
A child arguably doesn't necessarily interpret incest as something traumatic, unless they are told or infer that is how they should see it.
In Japan, incestuous sex is something done, but not spoken about. It is something that "just happens", and "just happens" as if by accident, is a common theme in Japanese culture. Incestuous relationships within the family are normalized, rationalized, and kept "hush hush".
There have been a number of studies in the past that have taken a critical look at Japanese incest and aspects of it. However, in more recent times, anything that made Japan look bad has been suppressed.
The Universality of Incest, Lloyd DeMause
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.... The effects of parental consanguinity and inbreeding in Hirado, Japan.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1... The Effects of Inbreeding on Tooth Size in Japanese Children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
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CarlBarker | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:21 p.m.
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Prototype00 | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:22 p.m.
Seems weird I've only heard about it on CE a couple of times
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Smashingpmkns | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:23 p.m.
From: Vado_UN | #001There is the "carrot..."
More like the baby carrot.
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Dota2 | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:23 p.m.
From: GuyCarlPeterson | #003I don't need to read all that to know what you are talking about and it is old.
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UnaidedCoder | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:24 p.m.
ChromaticAngel posted...it seems like every week I'm hearing about a different culture where moms have sex / oral with their sons.
This except it's Japan every single time.
God this meme is getting old.
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CM_Ponch | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:24 p.m.
This topic again
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Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:25 p.m.
Are there any Japanese people here to confirm this?
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GiftedACIII | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:26 p.m.
Still less known than Southerner incest
OneEyedDragon | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:26 p.m.
So is it me or do none of those links work.
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Shuriko | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:26 p.m.
I'm kind of curious on how this was studied.
Did they interview Japanese people or what
If it's all just a bunch of hearsay (even though the subject matter is feasible) then it can't really be trusted as an anthropological text
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hi_polymer | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:28 p.m.
Your links don't lead to anything.
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Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:30 p.m.
DarkMeteo | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:31 p.m.
Moms are the best.
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Life Sympathy | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:31 p.m.
Man you must watch some crazy porn.
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GiftedACIII | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:32 p.m.
Dota2 | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:32 p.m.
Vado_UN posted...Are there any Japanese people here to confirm this?
Never happened to me.
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Shuriko | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:33 p.m.
From: Vado_UN | #021http://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Children-Aftermath/dp/046501688X
That doesn't even discuss the same subject matter as what you posted. Do you even read this s*** you link to?
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ZombiePelican | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:36 p.m.
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Link_Cable | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:42 p.m.
Isn't this copypasta?
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Vado_UN | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:47 p.m.
Shuriko posted...From: Vado_UN | #021
That doesn't even discuss the same subject matter as what you posted. Do you even read this s*** you link to?
"In fact there is even a book out that argues against conventional Western wisdom and dogma on the subject."
Do you?
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Zikten | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:52 p.m.
yea, I've heard of this. but I never had the sources to back it up so people didn't believe me
Arcvalons | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:55 p.m.
I'm more into twincest TBH.
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Zikten | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:56 p.m.
if the mother is a career woman though, and she has a daughter with a large age gap with a younger son, the big sister might take the place of the mom in this role
Matu_Van_Ar | Posted on March 19, 2013, 9:57 p.m.
Yeah let's all believe some random stranger on the internet
racist idiots
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Zikten | Posted on March 19, 2013, 10:04 p.m.
incest is common in every nation. calm down, dude
tehdud | Posted on March 19, 2013, 10:10 p.m.
From: Vado_UN | #016Are there any Japanese people here to confirm this?
just like nanking and whaling its under the radar "we dont know anything of it" deals
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Rob Cesternino | Posted on March 19, 2013, 10:11 p.m.
Let's make sweeping generalizations about a country with 127 million people.
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tehdud | Posted on March 19, 2013, 10:11 p.m.
From: Rob Cesternino | #036Let's make sweeping generalizations about a country with 127 million people.
we do it to countries with over a bil people, so why not.
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Zikten | Posted on March 19, 2013, 10:16 p.m.
and nobody is saying they all do it. it's a part of the society. just like it is in our's. they don't ALL do it. just some.
Life Sympathy | Posted on March 20, 2013, 4:58 a.m.
All your sources only provide details of what could probably be just isolated incidents similar to molestation in the western world. None of them actually say "oh this is a normal occurrence in Japan" nor cite an statistics of how often this happens. Does incest happen between mother and son? Yes there are extremely few cases in the world where it does happen. Does it happen often and/or is a widespread problem? No.
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Mister_Spyker | Posted on March 20, 2013, 5:07 a.m.
What's even weirder is that you used hashtags without being on twitter
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gmanthebest | Posted on March 20, 2013, 5:12 a.m.
Incest is a game the whole family can enjoy.
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UnfairRepresent | Posted on March 20, 2013, 5:20 a.m.
Everytime I hear people talk about things "Japanese/Indian/French/etc people do" I immediately think of the all the things people claim "Southerners" do, and then wonder if we're talking about the whole population or just like one region with some... shall we say "Colorful" customs.
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Bushidist | Posted on March 20, 2013, 5:23 a.m.
gmanthebest posted...
>_>
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Revisited | Posted on March 20, 2013, 5:58 a.m.
Doesn't anyone ask how this meme got started? I'd like to know if it was jus some bored neckbeardy 4channers a couple of years back that started getting turned on at the thought of this idea.
Revisited | Posted on March 20, 2013, 6:04 a.m.
Wow. Maybe I'm dense but I can't tell if some of the people in this topic are desperately believing the op with all their might or adding to the joke through about 50 layers of irony. Maybe both?
Iarrygaga | Posted on March 20, 2013, 6:22 a.m.
From: Revisited | #045Wow. Maybe I'm dense but I can't tell if some of the people in this topic are desperately believing the op with all their might or adding to the joke through about 50 layers of irony. Maybe both?
I'm going to pretend CE isn't that stupid and everyone is joking and not taking this seriously
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Revisited | Posted on March 20, 2013, 6:25 a.m.
That seems wise.
Arcvalons | Posted on March 20, 2013, 3:44 p.m.
Zikten posted...if the mother is a career woman though, and she has a daughter with a large age gap with a younger son, the big sister might take the place of the mom in this role
In that case...
Japan = awesome
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EnragedSlith | Posted on March 20, 2013, 3:52 p.m.
I used to live in Japan, so I'll just go ahead and confirm this as a complete falsehood. Children in Japan are way too busy training to become Pokemon masters in order to partake in something like this.
MrMonkhouse | Posted on March 20, 2013, 3:55 p.m.
Japan always comes up with some weird s*** that's completely ok by their standards.